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polyme

Mon Mar 31 2008, 04:42PM

Character Name: Polyme
Class: Priest

Posts: 12

Dear Esko,

I am Polyme from Exiled of Aerie Peak. We were working on the first boss in SW when I stumble into your guild WWS stats. I was very impressed at your dps as a shadow priest and also is very interested in find out more information on killing strategies for bosses in SW for my guild.

I have a few questions that would really appreciate if you or your guild could offer assistance with.

I would be very interested in discussing with Esko about Shadow Priest DPS and how to improve my own dps.

I would also like to speak with Death Wish about kill strategies and what we could to improve our strategies.

On behalf of Exiled of Aerie Peak, I thank you in advance for your consideration and assistance. If it is possible for me to join you on ventrillo, please let me know. I will be checking back to your forum very often.

polyme

Mon Mar 31 2008, 04:49PM

Character Name: Polyme
Class: Priest

Posts: 12

Sorry for junking up your board. I think I should have posted this in the other forum

. Please move it if it pose a problem.

esco

Wed Apr 02 2008, 12:22PM

Chess-Chest-Bunny

Character Name: esco
Class: Warrior

Posts: 279

sure would be willing to talk to you no prob

i checked out your armory there's two quick changes you can make to your gear to make some improvement in DPS.
change meta to Ember Skyfire Diamond
change offhand to Fetish of the Primal Gods

other than that, i'm assuming you're running ZA every reset and are just unlucky so far with getting Hex Head. also make sure you are trying for Timballs from heroic magister's as well (shitty luck so far for myself on this one).

can replace the neck with Loop of Cursed Bones (off zuljin)

not sure what your guild's pyrestone supply is like but if possible replace the spinel in your gloves with reckless pyrestone (+5 haste/+6dmg)

also when possible try to get a ring of ancient knowledge (or two)
or at least grab a mana attuned band (assuming your guild runs ZA and gets at least 3 timed)
either of those should replace signet of ancient magics

also checked out your current talent tree, looks like your current spec is some sort of pvp but if not you should fix it up slightly
definitely ditch silence and imp psychic scream which will give you 3 points
the rest of your spec is fine
based on your current hit you're fine with 2/5 Shadow Focus (you will lose 17 hit from replacing Chronicle with Fetish but will still be fine with 2/5)
take one of the 3 points you now have free and go 5/5 Imp Mind Blast (instead of your current 4/5, this will help a lot with your spell rotations, you will notice a difference)
the other two points are up to you. i would probably go with 2 in Imp VE because there is a shitload of steady group damage (i.e. kalecgos aoe arcane & shadowbolts, brutallus meteor slash, felmyst nature aura) on most of the sunwell fights and it really does help.
keep in mind as your gear changes you will need to revisit your hit rating and may need to respec and point more points in Shadow Focus but you should always keep 5/5 Imp Mind Blast and if you need to go 4/5 Shadow Focus at any point just dont put any points in Imp VE

as for general dps strat i know me and jydlen open up with relatively the same combo on bosses, vt -> swp -> swd -> ve -> mb -> flay
also worth noting that in sunwell on brutallus both jydlen and i have been destro potting on cooldown

hope that helps out
other than that feel free to hit me up if you've got questions

Happy Unbirthday

polyme

Wed Apr 02 2008, 01:21PM

Character Name: Polyme
Class: Priest

Posts: 12

Definitely!

Thanks for the inputs. I haven't thought of collecting haste gear up until now. I am working on getting those items that you've recommended.

I did have a shitty luck on Hex (25 runs no drop). Working on a heroic MT runs to get Timbal right now. I do like to get a dip in on Skull though. It's just too sexy to pass on.

As far as rotation goes, Do you guys cut mindflay everytime MB and SWD is up or do you let it tick for the full duration? Using Destro pot on cd is new to me. I haven't been thinking of that but i can definitely look into that.

Talent wise, I've been doing some pvp as shadow so that's why I had my current spec as it was on armory. I deinfitely will drop silence and get 5/5 imp mb.

Gemwise, Is it worthy to stack reckless pyrestones? or just one in the glove slot? I am still debating on whether or not I should gem belt and bracer with those as well.

What +shadow do you guys try to maintain? about 1300ish unbuff?

Is there a good shadow dps spreadsheet that any of you know of?

Thanks again for all the helps. We down Kalecgos last week. Working on brutalus now.

[ Edited Wed Apr 02 2008, 01:24PM ]

esco

Wed Apr 02 2008, 03:18PM

Chess-Chest-Bunny

Character Name: esco
Class: Warrior

Posts: 279

until 2.4 haste hasn't been worth "collecting" altho there were previously some best in slot items pre 2.4 which had haste

anyway
you should definitely get skull if possible i just didn't mention it because was trying to give more realistic "immediate" upgrades and i'm assuming there's plenty of ppl in line for it. theorycraft shows skull + timbals is best in slot trinket combination

as for destro pots i dont use them on CD every fight. but for example the day 2.4 opened and we were doing kalecgos i was using them any time i was dpsing the demon if the cooldown was up. and i always use them on CD for brut. felmyst not so much because it's a lot of need to immediately stop dps for the mass dispel. i'm sure for twins i will be popping them on CD.
gotta do everything you can to max

on the mindflay cut off question, me personally i do not, i let it tick and use the latency bar on quartz to time my start cast for the next cast.

for the gems, for the moment i have just changed my glove gem because of socket bonus. theorycraft shows stacking reckless pyrestone is the way to go however i think that needs some real world testing. when the badge gem vendor comes out we are going to do some testing and see what the real world outcome is.

don't really try to stay any certain +dmg i suppose. as long as you get to 1400+ buffed, that is where haste is valued 1:1 for pseudo dmg in theorycraft

can find good spreadsheets/info/data at shadowpriest.com

grats on getting kalecgos down, g/l on brut. go make destro pots

Happy Unbirthday

polyme

Thu Apr 03 2008, 03:32PM

Character Name: Polyme
Class: Priest

Posts: 12

Any reason why you use spell penetration on cloak?

I was reading on some haste stuff and it seems we probably gonna have a haste cap at 33.33% when our VT and MB will take 1 sec to cast which clash with the GCD. That would give us a 2.25 sec MF which would fit perfectly 2x into one IMP MB CD. I don't know if it worth sacrificing spell damage after 33.33% full hasted buff (BL, drums, or trinket). The only spell that will benefit after 33.33% haste is MF.

With all that in mind. Do yout hink we should aim for 33.33% haste when bl, drum, or trinket and focus the rest into +damage?

Jydlen

Thu Apr 03 2008, 04:35PM

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Character Name: Jydlen
Class: Priest

Posts: 375

Spell Pen to cloak mainly because of Subtlety being such a small increase in threat reduction that it barely helps. Aside from Felmyst last night, me and Esko have never even been close to ripping off our tanks for the past few months.

Nethervoid Cloak is a pretty high drop-rate from Hyjal now, you could always just get 1 with Spell Pen and 1 with Subtlety.

I'm not sure what Esko's haste is at, however I know with BL, Drum, and Skull popped I hit 0.9s MB/VT's, just barely dipping me under GCD, and I don't usually have any issues with it (Sitting at 202 haste unbuffed).

I put together a spreadsheet of the gear that I want to ultimately go into the expansion with, all items on the spreadsheet are best-in-slot minus Leggings of Calamity. I chose to go with LoC just because my unbuffed haste was VERY high already. You can find the spreadsheet Here

As for Reckless Pyrestones, it's not really worth "stacking" them. The way you want to go about it are these rules;
If raid buffed damage >=1400, socket Reckless Pyrestone in sockets that are Yellow or Red, Pending ONLY that you will complete a socket bonus that gives you 2 or more spell damage.
As Esko said, past 1400 spell damage, 1haste=1dmg. The higher your damage, the higher the value on haste.

Hopefully that helps, I'm sure Esko has some more to chime in, but I was bored so I figured I'd give my 2c.

esco

Thu Apr 03 2008, 05:28PM

Chess-Chest-Bunny

Character Name: esco
Class: Warrior

Posts: 279

Jydlen wrote ...

Aside from Felmyst last night, me and Esko have never even been close to ripping off our tanks for the past few months.

shhhhh

and yea. jydlen basically covered it. ty

Happy Unbirthday

polyme

Fri Apr 04 2008, 01:05PM

Character Name: Polyme
Class: Priest

Posts: 12

Jydlen,

Where does these Item drop from

Amulet of unfettered magics
Amice of the Convoker
Sunflare

Jydlen

Fri Apr 04 2008, 01:27PM

I probably think you're a shitty...

Makes Movies!

Character Name: Jydlen
Class: Priest

Posts: 375

Amulet of Unfettered Magics - The Eredar Twins - Sunwell Plateau
Amice of the Convoker - The Eredar Twins - Sunwell Plateau
Sunflare - Kil'jaeden - Sunwell Plateau

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